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CHAPTERS:.
00:00 CARS & BIDS!!!
00:26 Introduction.
01:06 The Principle Automobile That Exists.
03:29 The Honda That Fizzled.
05:09 Ford's Late Bloomer.
07:49 Lincoln's Ford Combination Wannabe.
09:47 Doug's Controversial Idea.
12:23 Kennan's Betrayal to Ferrari.
16:11 Is This Any Better Than A Phantom??
19:59 Mazda Turned Their Back On Lovers.
21:42 This Automobile Wasn't "Lovely" Enough For Kennan.
24:42 Goodbye To Buddies.
#dougdemuro #cars #epicfail.
Can you do another video covering RARE everyday cars you might not recognize are rare?
Yes! The last one was so fun
BMW e86
Porsche Panamera with manual transmission
@ZettoMedia Would you say the first gen Cayenne with a manual fits this or no?
Doug did that a year or so ago, just look up what you said
@bigboycaleI know he did. And myself and a lot of other people really liked that video and wanted a follow up with more rare cars.
Doug owns the world’s most expensive cookie table.
“I’m going to ruin this man’s entire career” – Elon Musk
@First name Last nameno, please… Please don’t say that.
And still won’t spend $10 on a TV tray table for his laptop…
Doubtful 😂
@Phil Bauerdougs the type of guy to use a laptop…on his lap
I’m the guy who bought the only CR-Z ever sold on Cars and Bids. Doug is 100% correct but I still love that car. I’ve put 70k miles on it in 2 years.
I’m so sorry
I disagree, the manual one is a lot of fun, and cheap
@TheSkyline35 mine is a manual!
@t17389zawesome, I’d buy one with a manual.
It’s the type of hybrid I’d have fun driving
@t17389z Mine was also a manual, and if you are sincere, you will agree with me than the car is pretty maneuverable in twisty roads, and fun to drive in that scenario… quite stable and reliable, and with a good mileage.
The sad thing about the crz is that honda originally wanted to put the k20 from the civic si into it and make it an si trim, but the car failed crash testing with the larger engine so the best we got was a hfp supercharger
I think one aspect I’d like to have heard Doug and Kennan comment on was how would they would have changed these cars to make them successful
They kinda did.
@Steven Williams I agree they kind of did, I just would have liked to hear more. For example they didn’t really talk about that with the CRZ. It would have been interesting to hear Doug’s thoughts, like rip out the hybrid system, drop in the Civic Si power train.
@Nick G I forget the name of the company but there’s a shop that guts the hybrid systems out of the Insight and drops in monster k blocks.
“Its interesting how you choose the vehicles for your Applebees experience.” -Kennan
I just belly laughed. It could also be partly my morning caffeine kicking in, but that was hilarious
And Kennan saying the neighborhood part cracked me up as well
Jumping in again, Kennan hit the nail on the head with the i8. What a waste to have that powertrain in a car that beautiful
The copper i8 was/is breathtaking.
True. The i8 should have had the B58 engine at least.
@Damilola Akanni Did BMW already have the B58 Engine when they came out? The i8 is insanely old now, came out in 2014.
That said i completely agree. It’s insanely underpowered for it’s amazing Looks and Design
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
@Chartreux I’m not sure the B58 existed at the time, but BMW could have used the existing inline 6 engine from the 3 series of the time. Or the twin turbo V8 from the M5.
@Damilola Akanni
100% agree with you, inow i’m interested why BMW made the Decision to give a Flagship Car like the i8 so little Power and that klind of Engine. Maybe they couldn’t figure out how to make a Hybrid with a bigger Engine back in 2010-2014?
@ChartreuxBMW should had put tuned V12 from 7 series or bi turbo V8 from f10 M5 atleast
BMW won’t make such a beautiful car anymore
Doug gets even weirder when he’s with one of his friends
You always see doug alone so you never notice he has a touch of the -tism until he interacts with normal humans.
You mean his dorky lover.
Wrong. He gets less weird. Both of them live in Nissan maximas. Both of them drink grape aid in they Nissans and watch foosball.
Doug gets a bad rap. He’s just a guy who loves cars and has fun talking about them. I’m glad he’s getting his friends in on the action.
@AlmostOn TimeHeroeah… it’s mainly just the interruptions
The prowler with v6 auto and trailer is perfect and I don’t appreciate this Prowler Slander. With love. Yuri 😜
Prowler Pipes Matter. ✊🏽
For the first time, today I saw the Prowler without bumpers.
I don’t get the insane Focus of so many Americans on “At least a V8”. Yes V8s sound great, well can sound great. To this day i find every single McLaren that has a V8 to sound “meh”.
But there are so many V6s that sound amazing and even better than some of the best V8s. Alfa Romeo Giulia GTAm is probably the best sounding V6 you can get in a Car currently for sale. BMW Straight 6 Engines also always sound fantastic. “More Cylinders” doesnt always equal “Sounds better”.
That said, i have no clue if the Prowler V6 sounds or can be made to sound any good.
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
@Chartreux honestly it’s an American thing. V8s are the standard and everyone hates now that they are taking them away. I love my v6 plus is super powerful for a 3.5 na. They just love v8s whether they are underpowered or not
Outstanding list! I will give honorable mention to the Cadillac XLR, the Ford Thunderbird, and the Mazda RX8.
The XLR…a Corvette based convertible without the Corvette engine. Less power, automatic transmission, not as reliable as the Corvette, heavier (because of the convertible top) and more expensive. For the Thunderbird, I think Ford was trying to return to form with that car (a convertible with a focus on luxury) as they had a Mustang convertible at the time. However the only other brands that were doing that were luxury brands (Mercedes-Benz with the SL and Lexus with the SC430, most notably). So if it had been badged as a Lincoln it may have done better. The RX-8 just had a worse engine than the RX-7, and most people who bought them didn’t really know how to maintain them, they weren’t your regular 4 or 6 cylinder engine.
@Damilola Akanni The XLR was going for the Mercedes SL market — something that was more rakish than an S-class coupe and still had some performance, even if it wasn’t a flat-out performance car. I rather liked it, but the market for this type of car seems to have gone away.
The thing is the RX-8 is another where the manufacturer eventually fixed it, with the R3 model.
@benjaminrobinson3842 you have a point there, but the Northstar engine that was used didn’t have a good reputation for reliability. If they had used a different V8 it may have done better.
The RX-8 was quite a success and is one of my Dreams Cars. But yes , it isn’t a RX-7 replacement.
Kennan’s take on the 296 was so puzzling until he said it needed a manual 😂
it was kind of a bad take though since its a hybrid –that basically would be the last car that Ferrari would have the opportunity to make a manual.
@Brandon Kirk I don’t understand why that’s a bad take though, it reinforces his argument
296 is underrated imo, unbelievably fast, keeps up with the sf90
There’s just no chance they would’ve put a manual in it
@Zach how would a manual even work when the car has electronic torque fill between shifts. The three electric motors are supposed to release without a flywheel when shifting manually?? Wanting a manual 812 or something like that makes sense but expecting as much with the 296 only because it looks retro like kenith was saying doesn’t make much sense.
As painful as it may be for some to understand, the Volt/ELR was way ahead yet undesired
I remember a while back hearing two enthusiasts talk about the prowler. And one brought up a good point. When the prowler was in development the best v8 Dodge had was the 5.9 magnum. Which was way heavier and less powerful than the 3.5 v6
I like the subject. I think there is a ton of content here so I think you guys should do a few more of these. Great callout for the Mazda. Such a cool looking car so I would love to see Mazda make a more aggressive version.
The “Are you taking that to Applebee’s?” Factor needs to be included on every review 😂😂
Agreed 😂
Doug with the Carrera GT: yeah, sometimes 😏
honestly instead of the lagonda taraf the flying spur W12 would have been the better bet.
That was a great back and forth between Doug and Kennan 😂
doug is the kind of guy who uses a PORSCHE CARRERA GT as a multi-purpose table
Same cookies as last video?
My list would include the Pontiac Fiero, Solstice, and Saturn Sky. They were basically half-baked, which often is a GM trademark.
When I read in the early 80’s in different car magazines that Pontiac was going to build an affordable mid-engine sports car I was thrilled. My father was a sports car fanatic and owned numerous ones, and NOTHING handled like the Lotus Europa and Esprit he had. The problem was getting them serviced. But Pontiac dealers were everywhere, and a simple mid-engine sports car made in the US should eliminate the problem of getting parts. And being a Pontiac it would be expensive to run or fix. My father was also NOT the type to buy a first year model of anything, he was a structural engineer (and a great mechanic) by trade, and he wanted to wait and see how well the Fiero’s did before he bought one. Well, he sure avoided a lemon! One of our neighbors bought a new ‘84 Fiero and it caught on fire the week he had it. He drove it home from work, parked it in the garage, and in a half hour the garage was fully engulfed in flames. It’s a good thing the garage wasn’t attached to the house.
The Soltice and Sky were an Opel product, so GM Europe but really Opel as that team was allowed to go its own way.
@Michael EilersI thought the Opel Speedster was a Lotus off shoot.
@Timothy Jackson it was, the Sky and Solstice came from the Opel GT, not the speedster.
No one thought of the Chrysler Crossfire?
“Kennan’s betrayal to Ferrari” Doug having some fun with the time stamps
I would like to bring another one to light that could have been great too. The Dodge Magnum. If they had kept it going at least long enough or brought it back to make a Scat Pack and Hell Cat versions of it I believe it would have really helped bring fast wagons back in the American market. Especially when Doug has a big love for them. I do too especially with the magnum because I mean, a station wagon with a Hemi under the hood…. Need I say more??
But it was soooo damn ugly. And it’s grill (the usual dodge crosshair special) makes it look worse. But then, I’ve been wanting Dodge to change that grill forever. It makes everything they put out look dated. At least to me.
@CAO DesignworksI think it is very attractive. It has some potential which was disregarded.
Great episode. Love these “best” and “what if” lists you’re doing with Hoovie, Keenan and Alanis – they’re real winners … But, perfectly in keeping with the topic — the great irony is this could have been even better but wasn’t! You spent too much time on some at the expense of others on your lists you ran out of time for. Guys, this needs a Part 2!
One particular glaring omission IMO that actually had promise, unfulfilled: no mention of the 00’s resurrection of the Thunderbird. A great-looking car I think Ford said was planned (oddly) from the get-go to be a limited year(s) run….Without a whole lot of nits to pick in the styling department, absent a bit more flair, a bit more special grille (started with the right idea but ended up looking a bit like something out of the movie “Cars”) and embellishments here and there on the exterior, including more special wheels and needing a few trim pieces such as chrome around the tail lights etcetera. … and basically needed a completely different, much more bespoke, luxe interior instead of the very downmarket shared parts Ford dash –- looks and materials…and was then under-marketed. Could have been a poor man’s SL, and wasn’t. Done, it appears, on (too restricted) a budget–unnecessarily I think.